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Pursuit Just ended in Huntsville

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5:38 pm
June 19, 2008


Foz

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Post edited 3:30 pm – November 20, 2009 by Foz


Did not catch the start of the pursuit but I do believe it started as an Attempt to Locate in District 1 possibly in Willis.

It appears a mother called the sheriff's office saying she was following her son. She claimed her son had been drinking and had a gun and was possibly headed to his girlfriend's house.

Near Bentwater the suspect was spotted by law enforcement (District 5) and the chase began. During the chase the suspect shot out of his vehicle at pursuing officers several times.

The chase ended in the Huntsville area (Walker County)at approximately 5:15 p.m. If I get a chance, I will review the recording of this incident and post some more information if warranted.

Update: Have distilled audio of the 30 min chase down to about 5 mins. Check Out

Willis to Walker County Pursuit 06-19-08 16:30 in the audio gallery if you are interested.

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Foz
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9:23 pm
June 19, 2008


CoeJax

Still Here

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Foz,

Dude we got to talk. You cant do that to us man. You put up the audio, but it stops just after two more shots are fired. The ending, what about the ending! So, anyways how did it end? I heard something about someone or something being hit by a bullet… Was a officer, bystander, or patrol car hit? If you have any other audio of the chase, please add it!

9:53 pm
June 19, 2008


Foz

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Post edited 3:32 pm – November 20, 2009 by Foz


Hehe The last part of the audio is the suspect wrecking out. After that was not much audible traffic on the Montgomery County System since the incident ended in Walker County.

I have a press release up with some more info.

See Press Release

Foz
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8:34 am
June 20, 2008


Foz

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Map Added to First post

Foz
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3:15 pm
June 22, 2008


manleymom

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posts 5

This was my brother is there any way I could get the full audio. I would love to hear the full thing to make a better sense of my brother's final moments. Thanks

12:49 pm
June 23, 2008


Foz

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Post edited 3:41 pm – November 20, 2009 by Foz


Hello manleymom I have provided a longer version of the audio we recorded during this incident.

Please remember the audio we are providing is the audio recorded during the time-frame the incident occurred from our Law Enforcement Feed 2.

Law Enforcement Feed 2 monitors several different agencies. Therefore, the extended audio we are providing contains transmissions from other agencies as well as the agencies involved in the pursuit (the initial audio we provided edited out all other agencies). The audio from the extra agencies may cause even the most seasoned radio listeners some confusion as to the course of events.

Also, we are certain this audio does not contain all radio transmissions that occurred during the chase. It merely contains transmissions that we actually received during the pursuit. At times during the recording you will hear other agencies/officers, not involved in the pursuit. We are certain some of these non-pursuit transmissions were occurring during some of the transmissions associated with the pursuit. In the cases were the aforementioned occurred, the audio provided, will not contain those particular pursuit related transmissions.

In addition the audio does not contain any transmission made on any Walker County or Huntsville radio system.

Reading the Scanner FAQ may help with unit numbers and such while listening to the audio.

See the FAQ post below: http://montgomerytx.countymoni…..anner-FAQ/

I would suggest you send a public information request to all agencies involved in the pursuit if you want a complete picture of the radio traffic involved in this incident. For help on requesting the public information please view the link below which illustrates a public information request to the Montgomery County Sheriff's Office.

http://montgomerytx.countymoni…..t-records/

The extended version, 52+ minutes, has been posted in the AUDIO GALLERY

Foz
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1:16 pm
June 23, 2008


manleymom

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posts 5

thank you so much. I have to step out right now but I'll listen to it as soon as i get back

9:50 am
June 27, 2008


manleymom

Newbie

posts 5

Thanks again. Is the address on your sample letter the address I would need to send to. Does this sound like the right information to include as well

This is a written request, pursuant to the state open records law, Tex. Gov't Code Ann. 552.001 to 552.353, for a copy of the patrol unit video of a vehicle pursuit which occurred between the Willis area to Huntsville area on 6/19/08 from an attempt to locate call for a Casey F. Brunette. I am requesting video of this event from any and all deputies’ vehicles.

11:37 am
June 27, 2008


Foz

Admin

posts 859

Hiya

The address in the example referenced in this thread for the Montgomery County Sheriff's Office is correct.

Precinct 1 Montgomery County Constables were also involved in the pursuit, so you ought to send a similar request to them also at the address below:

Constable Don Chumley
300 S. Danville
Willis, Texas 77378
Phone: 936-856-6329
Fax: 936-856-9408

Don't forget to ask for the dispatch audio each agency may have.

I do not have any Walker County Contact info, but I am sure a quick google search could get you an address for Walker County Sheriff as well as Sam Houston State University Police and Huntsville PD.

As far as your example request, I would also add a starting location and an ending location in your request.

Starting location could be a bit tricky. The attempt to locate (ATL) was originally aired for Eva and Liberty Street in Montgomery, Texas. First visual contact was made at FM-1097 and Bentwater Drive.

For an ending location, it was 16th St. and Avenue E.

Remember the Public Information Act allows governmental entities to charge for the information requested. They can also give it out for free if they so choose.

Typically we have paid from $0 to $4 per dvd for information.

If you think the section below applies, you can ask the governmental entity to waive all fees.

552.267. WAIVER OR REDUCTION OF CHARGE FOR PROVIDING
COPY OF PUBLIC INFORMATION. (a) A governmental body shall provide a copy of public information without charge or at a reduced charge if the governmental body determines that waiver or reduction of the charge is in the public interest because providing the copy of the information primarily benefits the general public.
(b) If the cost to a governmental body of processing the collection of a charge for providing a copy of public information will exceed the amount of the charge, the governmental body may waive the charge.

Also, one exception from disclosure under the Act includes information related to a criminal investigation.

552.108(a)(1) Information held by a law enforcement agency or prosecutor that deals with the detection, investigation, or prosecution of crime is excepted from the requirements.

However, since the potential suspect in any crime committed is deceased, I am not sure that exception would still apply.

If the governmental body wishes to withhold the information they must ask the Attorney General's Office for a ruling. Typically in Montgomery County, the County Attorney will send you a letter alerting you that they are asking for a ruling from the AG's office.

Hope I did not overwhelm or confuse you.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

Foz
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4:37 pm
July 17, 2008


manleymom

Newbie

posts 5

Hey, foz
I just got one letter back saying they refused it. stating i needed to include a cell and pin #

This is who it's addressed to

Bethany Stafford
Montgomery County Sheriff's Office
#1 Criminal Justice Dr
Conroe, TX 77301

Is there something I did wrong. Thanks again for your help

4:56 pm
July 17, 2008


Foz

Admin

posts 859

Hi Manleymom

Clarify a bit for me please.

The post office returned/did not deliver the letter? The mention of a cell or pin # is confusing me.

Or did the sheriff's department answer the letter and say you did not provide enough information to locate the videos?

Please elaborate a bit more.

Foz
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4:51 pm
July 20, 2008


manleymom

Newbie

posts 5

The letter I sent hasn't been opened. It has a stamp on the front that says Return to Sender then it has an X on the part that says Cell & Pin # required. It's also written saying refused 7-14

10:08 pm
July 20, 2008


Foz

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posts 859

HI Manleymom

I sent you a private message. Check your inbox please.

Foz
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9:16 am
September 5, 2008


MyTgr8ful

Conroe

Member

posts 214

What else happened with this? Did the request get sent and addressed? FOZ, I admire your tenacity in helping, following up and following thru. Good job!

*MYTGR8FUL*

2:08 pm
September 5, 2008


Foz

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Post edited 3:44 pm – November 20, 2009 by Foz


Thanks MyTgr8ful :-) An update on this issue would be nice ManleyMom if you are up to it. 

I wanted to point out an issue you may have already run into or may run into ManleyMom. We attempted to get some in-car video from a case in which a prisoner slipped his cuffs and stole an MCSO Patrol vehicle.

In order to further understand why it turned out to be so difficult to obtain this information from the MCSO, we requested a copy of the in-car video policy for the MCSO.

Unfortunately, it seems, the Sheriff's Office actually reuses videotapes many times, thus erasing the original captured video. This 90 day erasure policy can cause a problem when attempting to obtain video from the MCSO.

You can read the Policy HERE

This policy could potentially make it necessary to ask for the video once each day in order to prevent it from being destroyed.

Add another project to the list :-)

Foz
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4:51 pm
September 5, 2008


MyTgr8ful

Conroe

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Why wouldn't they record the tapes onto disk before re-using? I would think they would better protect themselves with that as a backup?!?!
I guess that would just mean more cost for disk, storage for them and someone to do all the transferring. It just boggles the mind as to why it's not a wireless feed to the police dept. anyways, but I'm simple minded and probably overlook the obvious reasonings. Hopefully ManlyMom did get what she requested..

*MYTGR8FUL*

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